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(Krutz)
Having AETN walk
into my building
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and meeting them
changed my life.
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My dad said, "You know,
if you're successful in life,
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you've got to give back."
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The great music of my life
has been my volunteer effort.
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[phones ringing]
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[speech overlapping]
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If what they say is true,
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that necessity
is the mother of invention,
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then it must be said
that the mother
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of the Arkansas Educational
Television Network
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was Jane Krutz.
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For more than 40 years,
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Miss Jane, as she's called
by all those who know her,
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has been the face
or, more appropriately,
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the voice of AETN,
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both of which
are seen and heard
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right here
at the phone bank of Studio A
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during every pledge drive.
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But Miss Jane
is more than a crusader
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for public television.
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She is a woman
who has built her life
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around giving to others.
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In addition
to raising a family of three
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and a successful
business career,
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Miss Jane has volunteered
for more than 40 organizations,
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was awarded the community
service governor's award
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for volunteerism,
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and named PBS' number one
volunteer of the nation.
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As a woman of distinction
here in Arkansas,
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Senator David Pryor sits down
with Miss Jane
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to talk to her
about her lifetime of service
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and discovers a woman
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whose passion for life
is matched only
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by her determination
to help others,
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a woman who has made
a difference in this state,
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not because
of any political office
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or financial contribution
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but through a force of will
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that has touched the lives
of countless Arkansans.
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[stirring music]
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Hello, I'm David Pryor,
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and like many of you
in this audience today,
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I have been
watching this lady,
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Jane Krutz, for probably
three or so decades
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raise money for one
of her favorite passions, AETN.
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And today we just sort of want
to talk to Jane Krutz,
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and we want
to see what makes her tick.
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Why does she do this?
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Why does she give
all of this time
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not only to this great cause
but to many, many causes
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throughout
the state of Arkansas
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to benefit not only
the children but adults as well
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and all of us
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as a culture
and as a state?
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Now, Jane,
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one of the interesting things
I've heard about Jane Krutz
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is that you have another first.
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You were a first in
volunteerism, a first woman
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to manage a corporate
high-rise building,
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an office building,
et cetera.
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You have many, many firsts
attached to your great career.
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There's another first
that happened to you
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when you were
a high school student,
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and when you were
a high school student
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is when you met Ted.
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That's right.
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Now, tell us
about that story.
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Well, I was 16 years old
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and went
out to the Camp Robinson
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to see a cousin of mine
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that was going
to be shipped out
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and met Ted Krutz,
and I thought,
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"That's the prettiest man
I've ever seen in my life."
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And he really was, and at 87,
he is still pretty to me, David.
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He just still looks good to me.
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He was 23 at the time
when I met him,
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and we started dating,
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and then he got orders
to go overseas.
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We thought we would marry
when I got out--
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really, at first,
when I went to college.
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Then when I got
out of high school,
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we were going to get married.
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But he got orders
to go overseas,
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and we just thought
we'd die.
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I just thought, "Well, he's
going to go over to France,
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"and some little cute French
girl is going to get him,
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and I'm not about
to let him get away from me."
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So I talked
to Mother and Daddy about it,
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and they weren't happy with me
wanting to marry that early,
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but they knew that
I was determined to marry him
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before he left the States.
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Going overseas, right?
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So he had a--he was scheduled
with a two-week leave in March
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and then was going overseas,
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and I said, "Mama,
we're going to get married
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during that March--
during his time in March."
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But you were in high school.
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But I was
a high school senior.
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At that time,
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no one had ever graduated
from Little Rock High School
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and been married.
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If they'd found out
they were married
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on graduation day,
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they did not get their diploma.
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Now, John Larson
had a heavy hand,
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and that was his rule.
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Well, Mother went to Mr. Larson
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and told him
that I wanted to have--
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Now, he was
the superintendent or principal.
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No, he was
the principal.
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And he said, "No, Ms. Gray."
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He said, "If I let Jane marry,
everybody--
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"I can't say no to anybody.
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No."
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Well, Mother knew that I was
going to go off and marry Ted
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and quit school
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if I couldn't get married,
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and she went to Mr. Hall,
who, at that time,
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was the superintendent
of the schools
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that Hall High
is now named after.
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So he said, "Well, you know,
Ms. Gray, this is wartime,
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"and our boys
are leaving high school,
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"going right to the war,
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and maybe we need
to bend a little bit for them."
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So he asked for my records,
and she got them for him,
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and I'd always had good grades
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and did a lot of volunteer work
in the high school.
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I--you know,
I started real young
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doing volunteer work.
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And he said, "Well, yes,
we'll let her get married
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and then come back
and finish school."
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So I had a huge church wedding
at the First Nazarene Church
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at Ninth and Battery.
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And, of course,
it was packed out by this time
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because word had gotten out
that I was getting married
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and going to get
to finish high school,
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and I did, of course.
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We married,
took a two-week honeymoon.
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I came back
and finished school
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and got to get my diploma.
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And as luck would have it,
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Ted didn't have
to go overseas then.
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They pulled him out
to form a new cadre.
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He was a drill sergeant
and a good one,
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so he formed a new cadre.
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We moved
to Alexandria, Louisiana,
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where he was stationed
at Camp Claiborne.
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And we were there
for two years,
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and he continued
to be pulled out to form new--
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to be a drill sergeant
for new companies
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for the next two years.
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But every time he did,
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we thought
he was going overseas.
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Honey,
we didn't have a cross word
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during that two years.
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I bet that's the truth.
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Because we never knew
what day he might have to go.
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But that's the story
of me getting married.
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But of course,
that did open the door,
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and then lots of girls
got married
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and finished school
after that.
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(Pryor)
With the war over
and a new baby, Ted, Jr.,
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Jane and Ted returned
to Little Rock, where,
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over the next five years,
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they would welcome
two more children to the family.
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While Miss Jane was enjoying
her new role as wife and mother,
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she was never a woman
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who could sit still
for too long.
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Jane continued her
volunteer work at her church,
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but as her children
entered school,
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her volunteer efforts expanded.
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When her oldest son, Ted, Jr.,
entered the first grade,
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Jane served her first term
as PTA president,
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and in 1955, she marched
in the fight against polio
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with the March of Dimes.
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That same year,
a vaccine was discovered
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by Dr. Jonas Salk,
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and as her husband, Ted, says,
"Jane was so happy,
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you would think
she helped stir the cure."
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Jane assumed
an even bigger challenge
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when she was appointed director
of Little Rock's first drive
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against cerebral palsy.
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With this project,
Jane met Willie Oates,
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a woman of distinction
in her own right,
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who mentored Krutz.
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The meeting lay the groundwork
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for what would become
a lifelong friendship.
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With her children all in school,
Jane started working part-time
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to help support
the family finances
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and soon took
her first full-time job
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at KARK TV in Little Rock.
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After a few years
of sitting behind a desk,
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Miss Jane was ready for a change
and a new challenge.
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She found that challenge
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as the manager
of the 1515 Building
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in Little Rock,
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where she proved
she had what it took
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to be a woman
in a man's world.
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Well, this was when
I first took over 1515 Building.
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It was owned by
Bloomfield Builders in Memphis.
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They owned building--they owned
the Trade Mart in New Orleans,
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the Peachtree buildings
in Atlanta.
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They owned buildings
in Oklahoma, Texas,
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all across the South.
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They had
no female building managers,
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and they didn't want one
when they hired me.
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I just drove them crazy
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till they finally gave me
a chance at it.
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And I filled my building
to 100% occupancy
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in less than three months
with a waiting list,
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and not another building
they owned had 100% occupancy,
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and they did not have
another female building manager.
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So they called all the managers
to Memphis for a big meeting.
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They came in from
all across the United States,
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sat us down in a big room,
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and I was
the only woman in the room.
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And they said, "Jane,
we want you to stand up here
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"and tell these men
how a woman was able to do
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what they can't do."
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Well, I didn't much like
the way that they said "woman."
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And I stood up,
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and I put on
my most dignified voice,
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and I said,
"Gentlemen, I know
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"that a woman must work harder
than a man
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"and do a better job
than a man to be noticed.
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"Fortunately,
that is not hard,
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and I will be glad to tell you
how to fill a building."
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And that was
when I built my speech,
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"Ten Steps
to the Top of the Ladder,"
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that today, 40 years later,
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I am still
giving to business groups.
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Well, Jane,
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you started off
your volunteerism,
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as you said
just a moment ago,
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even in high school,
you were a volunteer.
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Now, was this
because of your church?
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Was this
because of your parents?
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Where was your inspiration
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to become a volunteer?
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Well, it had to come
from my parents.
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My parents were volunteers
in the church
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more than anywhere else.
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They were both musicians,
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and they gave their talent
in that way.
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Mother played the piano.
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Daddy led the choir.
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And that was back in the days
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when they didn't pay
music directors, you know.
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That was just
their volunteer service.
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They volunteered for many
revival meetings with no pay,
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to be the musicians for them.
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They also did
some volunteer work
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for The Salvation Army,
and I just was--
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Mother just always said,
"Now, honey, if you're--
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"you know,
if you're successful in life,
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"you've got to give back.
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"And if you have clothes to wear
and food to eat
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"and a house to live in,
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"you have to give people
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that maybe don't have
these good things."
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So it was just
a way of life that--
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of course, as I tell people,
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Jesus was actually the first
director of volunteerism
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when He said that
if we did help the needy
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that He would give us credit
for doing it to Him.
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So it was just sort of
built in to my growing up
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that you did things
for other people,
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and then I always had
a lot of drive.
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I mean, you know,
that's a fault of character.
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I had to win at everything.
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You know,
if I sold Girl Scout cookies,
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I had to sell more than anybody.
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If I sold poppies
for The American Legion,
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I had to sell more than anybody.
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And anything I ever did,
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I sort of went
into it with that,
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and that's how, I think, I,
you know, get money for AETN.
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We just got to get it,
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and we don't go affair
till it's there.
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(Pryor)
How did it come about
in Arkansas that we started,
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I guess you would call them,
the telethons
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and where you would get on TV?
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And tell us about the--
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(Krutz)
Well, now, the first few years,
we did not do that.
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I've forgotten
how many years it was,
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although I could look it up,
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because we know
when we started
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and we know
when we started that.
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But it came to the point
to where, for the evening--
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now, the state--
I want people to know--
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the state pays
for educational television.
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They pay for the building.
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They pay for the staff.
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They pay the lighting.
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They pay
the educational programs
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that go into the schools.
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And, boy,
that is a story in itself.
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But they pay for that.
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They do not pay for the programs
that we were offered
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as entertainment programs,
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like the entertainment
night programs
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and like the children's
Sesame Street.
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We have to buy those,
and, honey,
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they are not cheap.
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But we didn't have
the money to do it.
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The state couldn't pay for that.
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We finally decided,
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along with other states
over the nation,
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that we would go on the air.
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Now, the first year we did it,
we did a one-time telethon
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where we were on the air
72 straight hours.
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I've always heard that you were
on there the whole time.
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I was.
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72 straight hours.
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I was on there
72 straight hours,
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me and Fred Schmutz, honey.
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It sounds like a filibuster
in the Senate.
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It was almost, honey.
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By the time it was over,
the whites of my eyes were gray.
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Yeah.
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But then after that,
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we went to the format
that we have now
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where we're on
a few hours every night
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for a couple of weeks.
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Well, Jane, back in the--
not too long ago, actually,
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public broadcasting
was in trouble.
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They were trying to zero out
the funding
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for public broadcasting
in our country.
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One of the great valuable
assets of our whole nation
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they were trying
to basically destroy.
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I never could figure this out,
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and you testified
in Washington against this.
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That was in '95.
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1995.
That's right.
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And they sent me as a layman.
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Everyone else
on the panel that testified
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either was the president
of one of the PBS stations
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or president of NPR
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or had a job with them.
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They would've lost a job
if they had zeroed it out.
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I was the only layman that went
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who actually had nothing
to lose except good programming.
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And I went as the little old
grandmother from Arkansas
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who was a volunteer--
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and that was actually
how I was introduced--
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and testified before them.
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But when I got off that plane
in Washington, D.C.,
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with our director at that time,
Susan Howorth,
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who was head of AETN,
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I was frightened to begin with
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when I began meeting
the president of APBS
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and the president of PBS
and all of these people,
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and they were so counting on me
carrying the ball for them
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as the only layman,
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because they felt like
my words would mean more
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when I didn't have
a job to lose.
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And they were just saying,
"Oh, you're going to do it.
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You're exactly what we need."
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And I thought,
"Oh, Lord, help us, I pray.
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"If I fall on my face,
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I'll never even go
back on the air in Arkansas."
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You know,
I really had that feeling
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that I would be embarrassed
over not doing
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what they thought
I was going to do.
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I had made
a three-minute speech in Atlanta
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when I was chosen
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as the outstanding PBS volunteer
of the nation,
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and that three-minute speech
was what they based the fact
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that I could go there
and speak to Congress on.
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So when I walked
into that state capitol
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and into the room
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with all these congressmen
sitting up at the podium,
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across the front--
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one of them was Jay Dickey,
our Arkansas congressman,
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and I was intimidated by Jay,
like everybody was.
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I mean, he--I love him,
but he intimidates anybody,
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and there he sat.
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And I sat down at that table,
and LeVar Burton was testifying,
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and the program director
of radio, public radio,
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and the director
of the Louisiana station.
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All of these big dogs
were testifying.
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And when it came my time,
my mouth was so dry
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that I thought
I was going to choke to death.
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But once I got
the first word out, I was okay,
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and I talked for ten minutes,
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and they tell me
I am the only person
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that ever got a standing ovation
from a committee
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to speak before the Congress.
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And so I felt like, then,
that they accepted that
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and that my words
had meant something to them.
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And it was a great success
that we had that day,
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but I was more frightened than
I have ever been in my life.
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I'm here to tell you
that the money
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that this committee appropriated
for public TV
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for this year of 1995
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is one of the best bargains
that you get
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for the federal dollar.
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And I'd like to tell you
what the local stations do
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with this financial support
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and how they serve the people.
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(Pryor)
Public television
was saved that year
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00:18:26.939 --> 00:18:28.473
by people like Jane Krutz,
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whose voice joined
a chorus of people
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protesting federal budget cuts.
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Beyond her service
to public television,
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Jane Krutz
has served as president
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of eight organizations,
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including the Friends of AETN,
The Salvation Army,
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the Greater Little Rock
Chamber of Commerce,
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the Arkansas Youth Council,
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Nazarene Women's Ministries,
the PTA,
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and the Building Owners
and Managers Association,
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for which she was
the first female president.
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She has served on the board,
been a member of, or fund-raised
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for over 35 organizations
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00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:04.475
and has been recognized locally
and nationally
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for her hard work.
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Her husband, Ted,
once gave her
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a box of business cards
that said,
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00:19:09.448 --> 00:19:13.050
"Jane Krutz: General Manager
of the Universe."
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Jane just laughed
and started passing them out.
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Where did this drive come from?
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It came from her family,
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where she learned as a child
the value of being loved
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and sharing that feeling
whenever the opportunity arose.
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(Krutz)
Well, you know,
I was an only child.
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They were married seven years
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and thought
they could have no children
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00:19:34.206 --> 00:19:35.706
when I was born.
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And as far
as they were concerned, honey,
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I was just about perfect.
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Now, I mean to tell you,
Frances Jane was perfect
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as far as they were concerned,
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except for one thing.
437
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I had very straight,
ugly hair.
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My hair was
as straight as the floor,
439
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and it stood up
all over my head.
440
00:19:55.460 --> 00:19:59.397
And I grew up remembering Mama
spitting on my head,
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trying to make my hair lay down.
442
00:20:00.899 --> 00:20:04.335
And she kept caps on me
till I started school,
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because my hair was really--
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it was that white towhead blond
that was just ugly.
445
00:20:10.576 --> 00:20:12.310
Well, I had a first cousin
446
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that was three months older
than I was
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who was
a brunette Shirley Temple.
448
00:20:17.583 --> 00:20:20.885
She had black ringlets
all over her head,
449
00:20:20.919 --> 00:20:23.921
and every time
that my cousin, Doris,
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and Aunt Effie would come
to visit,
451
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Aunt Effie would say,
452
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"Isn't it a shame
about Jane's hair?
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"Isn't it a shame
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she couldn't have pretty hair
like Doris?"
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Well, Mother got tired of that.
456
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One day,
they were coming to visit,
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and she was going
to curl my hair.
458
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Now, back, honey,
80 years ago, you know--
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I was about four then--
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they didn't have
electric curling irons.
461
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All they had was a metal rod
that you put in the fire
462
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and you got red-hot
and curled with that.
463
00:20:54.052 --> 00:20:57.622
Well, Mother had me sitting
up on the counter in Conway,
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and she had
that hot iron in the fire
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00:21:00.125 --> 00:21:02.560
and was just fixing
to put it to my head
466
00:21:02.594 --> 00:21:04.495
when Daddy walked
into the room.
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He grabbed me up,
and he said,
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00:21:06.732 --> 00:21:09.300
"Fannie,
have you lost your mind?"
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00:21:09.334 --> 00:21:11.902
Said, "Don't you know
you'll burn that little scalp?"
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Well, she began to cry.
471
00:21:13.205 --> 00:21:14.805
She said, "Effie's a-comin'.
472
00:21:14.840 --> 00:21:16.641
"She's going
to make fun of Jane's hair,
473
00:21:16.675 --> 00:21:19.944
and I can't stand it anymore,
and I am going to curl it."
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He said, "You are not.
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I like it
just the way it is."
476
00:21:24.816 --> 00:21:26.984
He said,
"In fact, I ordered her
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with straight hair."
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00:21:28.387 --> 00:21:29.820
Mama said, "You what?"
479
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He said, "Yes, and I knew
she was going to look like you,
480
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"and I wanted something
about her to be like me.
481
00:21:35.594 --> 00:21:37.528
"So I ordered her
with straight hair
482
00:21:37.562 --> 00:21:39.297
"and a loud voice
483
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"so that she would be
something like me.
484
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I like her
just the way she is."
485
00:21:46.405 --> 00:21:48.239
Well, Mother started crying
and said,
486
00:21:48.273 --> 00:21:50.608
"Honey,
I like you like you are too.
487
00:21:50.642 --> 00:21:53.678
"It doesn't matter
that your hair is straight.
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00:21:53.712 --> 00:21:55.279
Mother loves you."
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And that's
the way they raised me.
490
00:21:57.716 --> 00:22:00.518
I knew that their love
was unconditional.
491
00:22:00.552 --> 00:22:03.154
It didn't matter
that my hair was straight.
492
00:22:03.188 --> 00:22:05.156
It didn't matter
that I was so clumsy
493
00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:07.525
I would never learn
to ride a bicycle
494
00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:08.826
or learn to swim.
495
00:22:08.860 --> 00:22:11.762
It did not matter that I was
the loudest mouthy kid
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on the block.
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They loved me regardless.
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Therefore,
I can understand a God
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00:22:18.870 --> 00:22:22.273
Who loves me regardless
of who I am,
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00:22:22.307 --> 00:22:24.942
what I look like,
what I do.
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00:22:24.976 --> 00:22:27.144
He loves me anyway.
502
00:22:27.179 --> 00:22:31.148
Jane, where is
your well of inspiration?
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Where is your--
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where is the root system
505
00:22:35.387 --> 00:22:37.988
where you get
all of this inspiration,
506
00:22:38.023 --> 00:22:41.025
do the things that you do
and have done?
507
00:22:41.059 --> 00:22:43.361
Where does it come from?
508
00:22:43.395 --> 00:22:44.362
Who does it come from?
509
00:22:44.396 --> 00:22:45.496
It comes from--
my dad was
510
00:22:45.530 --> 00:22:46.764
a used car salesman,
511
00:22:46.798 --> 00:22:49.767
and you know what they say
about used car salesmen.
512
00:22:49.801 --> 00:22:51.502
But my daddy was selling
513
00:22:51.536 --> 00:22:55.873
the third and fourth generation
of families their automobiles
514
00:22:55.907 --> 00:22:57.641
at 80 years of age,
515
00:22:57.676 --> 00:23:03.814
because they had been told
what Vic Gray says it is, it is.
516
00:23:03.849 --> 00:23:05.483
When I first went
to the building,
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00:23:05.517 --> 00:23:06.951
the 1515 Building,
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00:23:06.985 --> 00:23:11.322
he said, "Honey, let your word
be your bond with your tenants.
519
00:23:11.356 --> 00:23:14.759
"Don't you ever tell them
anything you'll do for them
520
00:23:14.793 --> 00:23:16.227
"and you not do it.
521
00:23:16.261 --> 00:23:19.430
"Don't let your name have to be
a the bottom of a contract.
522
00:23:19.464 --> 00:23:21.599
"If you look them
in the eye and say,
523
00:23:21.633 --> 00:23:24.135
"'I'll build a door
in that wall when you need it,'
524
00:23:24.169 --> 00:23:26.837
"you be sure
a door goes in that wall
525
00:23:26.872 --> 00:23:27.972
when they need it."
526
00:23:28.006 --> 00:23:29.573
And I think
that was one reason
527
00:23:29.608 --> 00:23:32.510
I was successful
as a building manager
528
00:23:32.544 --> 00:23:36.046
for 40 years is,
my tenants knew
529
00:23:36.081 --> 00:23:38.249
that they could trust
what I told them,
530
00:23:38.283 --> 00:23:40.918
and I learned that
from my daddy.
531
00:23:40.952 --> 00:23:45.222
Jane, thank you for letting me
come into your home,
532
00:23:45.257 --> 00:23:49.360
and thank you
for coming into our homes
533
00:23:49.394 --> 00:23:51.962
for these last four decades
534
00:23:51.997 --> 00:23:53.898
to talk to us
about the necessity
535
00:23:53.932 --> 00:23:58.202
and the need
of public broadcasting
536
00:23:58.236 --> 00:24:01.906
so that we may communicate
the life stories that we know
537
00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:04.809
and must share
with one another
538
00:24:04.843 --> 00:24:07.711
to make our communities better,
to make our state better,
539
00:24:07.746 --> 00:24:10.414
to make our country better.
540
00:24:10.449 --> 00:24:12.983
Thanks so much
for being a part
541
00:24:13.018 --> 00:24:17.521
of bringing these programs
and these messages
542
00:24:17.556 --> 00:24:18.756
to us in our homes.
543
00:24:18.790 --> 00:24:22.193
And once again,
thank you for letting us come in
544
00:24:22.227 --> 00:24:25.095
and share your home here
in Little Rock,
545
00:24:25.130 --> 00:24:26.564
and we don't know
546
00:24:26.598 --> 00:24:30.868
how we will ever express
our gratitude to you
547
00:24:30.902 --> 00:24:33.504
except to say thank you
very, very much.
548
00:24:33.538 --> 00:24:36.974
Well, thank you, Senator,
for being a part of it
549
00:24:37.008 --> 00:24:38.943
and for being in my home.
550
00:24:38.977 --> 00:24:42.680
You make me want to go out
and do something good.
551
00:24:42.714 --> 00:24:43.848
I can tell you that,
552
00:24:43.882 --> 00:24:46.317
and I think,
when people hear your message,
553
00:24:46.351 --> 00:24:47.985
they're going
to want to do the same thing.
554
00:24:48.019 --> 00:24:50.087
Well, their life will be worth
so much more.
555
00:24:50.121 --> 00:24:51.088
Thank you.
556
00:24:51.122 --> 00:24:52.089
Thank you, David.
557
00:24:52.123 --> 00:24:53.491
Thank you.